||[May. 30th, 2005|03:56 am]
LiveJournal Client Discussions
I'm interested in making an AIM interface to LiveJournal. It would most likely be an AIM bot which you would IM posts to. The bot would run on someone's server... mine right now. (eventually LiveJournal's?)
Has anything like this been done before? If so, please let me know.
I'm interested in using PHP, Java, and MySQL. Joscar seems to be a good AIM library for Java. Does anyone know of a good Java - MySQL library? Is JDBC good?
Any suggestions, comments, etc will be appreciated!
I see this bot as a tool for a single person, who runs it on his own server, with hard-coded name/password. This negates the security and licensing problems.
As to the third issue -- it's not a matter of 'useful.' The aim bot is interesting because it imposes limitations on your posting style. You send a paragraph at a time and can't edit. You've always got a client running. No one expects any sort of sustained narrative. It's a totally different experience. Producing certain effects requires careful negotiation and planning. That makes it worthwhile.
2005-06-02 03:37 pm (UTC)
I was responding to repalviglator
's idea, which sounds like it's meant to be a service for many people, not just one.
As for intentional limitations: I agree that imposing artificial constraints can spur the creative process (the Surrealists, and Burroughs, did a lot with this.) That's not the sense I got from the original post, however.
Also, don't you get the same limitations from SMS posts without having to install any special software? AIM messages don't limit you to a paragraph — the OSCAR packet limit is about 7kbytes, IIRC, which is about 2 pages of text — and the editing experience is usually better than a web form since it's WYSIWYG. Personally, I always have an email and LJ client running, in addition to AIM, but that may be a generational thing...
But. Again, my objections weren't to the way you run your AIM bot, but to what I saw repalviglator
proposing to do.
SMS posts cost me money... I'm cheap. Plus, they are damn slow to type on a cellphone. But, if I wanted to post from a cell phone, that's probably what I would use.
Sure... it would be nice to be a service to many people, but I don't want responsibility for too many passwords. Maybe if they created a separate account just for this use. Or, maybe if I created one account that anyone could post to, like lifftchi
I think there is a smaller limit on characters you can enter in one IM, but of course you can string IMs together to form an entry which is what I want to do. Or, I think direct connect is limitless... not sure though.
So, one method is to create an application that anyone could run (on their own computer) and type in a username and password for both aim (the bot) and lj. (the blog) That way, they would keep that info private.
2005-06-02 07:41 pm (UTC)
Huh, I thought you had cellphones in mind. If you're not posting from a cellphone, why not just use a client app or a web form or email?
I have worked closely with the AIM protocol so I'm fairly confident about the 7k limit (IIRC, the OSCAR packet size is 8k, but there's some overhead for headers and such.) You just can't send messages that large very often or the server will rate-limit you."So, one method is to create an application that anyone could run..."
If you're going to install a custom app on your computer anyway, why not make it an honest-to-god LiveJournal client
Anyway, if you just think it would be Really Cool to type a message into AIM and see it come up on your journal, then go for it. I was just raising concerns about something that might compromise other people's passwords.