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LjFormatter [Jan. 7th, 2003|06:42 pm]
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[shaurya]
The application I spoke about here has now been developed in Visual Studio.Net and is available with a GUI for download here.

Unfortunately, the application does not run without the .Net framework and the installer is too heavy for my free hosting service. If anyone knows any place I can place a 3.5 Mb file for free download, please let me know.

For those of you interested in the code, the project is available at the same place.

Lastly, there was a bug, which probably went unnoticed, in the older DOS version. That has been fixed in both versions.
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[User Picture]From: tydel
2003-01-07 05:12 am (UTC)
Does MS not have a no-hassle download link for the .NET framework?
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From: shaurya
2003-01-07 08:41 pm (UTC)

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Thanks for the link.

Btw, did either of you try out the application?

I suggest that if you have downloaded the .Net framework you try downloading the application and running it (I am trying to get the complete installation program up on the net somewhere)

On the other hand, if you have Visual Studio.Net already installed, I suggest you download the project and compile it yourself to be sure.
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[User Picture]From: pyran
2003-01-08 02:39 am (UTC)
Windows Update has it: http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com
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[User Picture]From: drakk
2003-01-07 06:01 pm (UTC)
I have heaps of space and bandwidth - i could host the file for download no dramas - give me a yell if you want that
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From: shaurya
2003-01-07 08:34 pm (UTC)

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Thanks :) I just realised that the upload was being stopped locally, by the proxy server here, not by my hosting service.

But since my hosting is free, they don't allow any ftp tools. Can you send me your server FTP details?

Or let me first check with this friend of mine. He's out of town for a week but I think he can help me out. He has a paid hosting account somewhere.

If that doesn't work out, hope you can help me out. Or maybe it's time I got myself a proper hosting account. FTP's shouldn't be stopped by proxy servers, right? I think they just have a limit for http requests.
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[User Picture]From: drakk
2003-01-07 10:28 pm (UTC)

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no worries - if you want them hosted then let me know. my ftp is ftp.bitter-and-twisted.com - any of these files you want hosted just put them in a folder in the "incoming" and i will move them to the pub folder for d/l
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From: shaurya
2003-01-07 11:02 pm (UTC)

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Thanks a whole lot :) I just tried ftping it, but was prompted for a username and password. Can you send these shaurya@stylusinc.com?

I'll also need a link to refer to the uploaded installable once you move it to your pub folder. Hope that's not too much trouble.

I won't trouble you too long. As soon as my friend gets back or I get a new hosting service, I'll take it off your server.

Also I'll have to keep uploading new versions as this one is very basic, it works very smoothly as long as you select all options while downloading the CSV file (including the header) but not otherwise.

I'll have to refine it more and so I will have to get my own hosting service sooner or later.
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[User Picture]From: drakk
2003-01-07 11:10 pm (UTC)

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when you upload just use anonymous as the user name and password should be blank - i'll let you know exact address once i move it :-)
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From: shaurya
2003-01-07 11:39 pm (UTC)

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Looks like my ISP's covered all possibilities dude :) Check out the error message I got when trying to upload to your server

ftp> mput
Local files D:\shaurya\MyDocu~1\Backup\shaurya\Downloads\LjFormatterInstaller.zi
p
mput D:\shaurya\MyDocu~1\Backup\shaurya\Downloads\LjFormatterInstaller.zip? y
500 Illegal PORT Command
553 LjFormatterInstaller.zip: Permission denied on server. (Upload)
ftp>

Let me see what else is possible ..........

Thanks again for the help..... maybe I can get my friend to upload it with his connection. Don't think he uses the same ISP. Then I could use his server too :) Will keep you updated. Thanks agin :)
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[User Picture]From: drakk
2003-01-08 12:13 am (UTC)

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Hmm okies - not sure what going on there lol.
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From: shaurya
2003-01-08 01:03 am (UTC)
:)) I know. I was a bit confused myself. Let me put it down here correctly now, for you and the others.

I made this application in .Net, right? And then made the installable for it.

Only this installable was 3.5 Mb and my ISP doesn't allow such large uploads or FTPs.

But then I discovered that even on the other machines here, the installer only installed the application if the machine had the .Net framework in the first place.

So I did some more research and found out that that 3.5Mb package that .Net was wrapping around my 5Kb application was nothing but the libraries needed to run the installer itself, you know, like placing shortcuts and registry entries :))

Meaning, even I managed to upload and you guys managed to download this installer, you'd still need to install the .Net framework before being able to run it .........

So the way I see it, the only thing to do is, install the .Net framework from the link given above and then unzip my application and save it on your machine.

You won't have any shortcuts though and the application needs no registry entries anyway. Also, your download will be minimised (the application's only 5Kb)

Hope that clears it up :)
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[User Picture]From: dhempe
2003-01-08 01:57 am (UTC)
that clears the issue. :-)

thanks 4 the explanation! ;-)
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[User Picture]From: pyran
2003-01-08 02:44 am (UTC)
Here's a question: what did you use to make the installer? The .NET stuff? Or a third-party package? 'Cause I made an installer for a program I wrote (just as an experiment), and all it created was a 100k .msi file which worked fine. Well, it added a couple of installers for the Installers (which sounds weirder than it really is), but by now I'd expect most Windows users to already be able to use .msi installers, especially if they use XP.

That'd cut down on your upload.
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From: shaurya
2003-01-08 03:13 am (UTC)
I suppose you didn't use the .Net Setup Project which is what I used.

Doesn't make any difference as I said, one way or the other. My application needs no registry entries or supporting files. The shortcuts can be created manually if essential and the thing can be run only on a machine which has the .Net framework installed anyway.

So I thought I might as well just keep the 5k application for download.

Nice journal :)
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[User Picture]From: pyran
2003-01-08 03:44 pm (UTC)
No, that's what I used. But you're right -- if there are no registry things, shortcuts, or the like, then a setup is probably overkill unless you want to package the .NET framework with it. You're better off just dumping the app into a folder and using it that way.

And thanks. :-)
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From: shaurya
2003-01-08 08:03 pm (UTC)
Do you know how to package the framework with an application? Or at least let the setup prompt for a framework download? I had no luck with that.

The only thing I saw useful was the web bootstrapper and the windows bootstrapper which just prompt you to download the MSI files setup requires from the net or a CD respectively.

And how did you manage a 100Kb MSI file? Was your application very small? But it should still take the same size for installation if you used a setup project too........
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